Another in the BBC Knowledge series. After visiting the old port of Batavia in Jakarta. I was fascinated by the Phinisis – traditional wooden ships that still ply the route of the Indonesian Spice Trade, carrying timber into Jakarta and cement back the other way. Says a lot right there. I always wanted to do the documentary, but was told it could be dangerous as not all the timber is legal. My chance came to at least honour the traditions of the Phinisi when I heard about Silolona and her owner ,Patti Seery. Best Mates on this journey were DOP Dean Johnson with Patrick Chan on sound and Rob Tinworth editing.